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mashghasem 
09/24/22

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Iran’s provision of drones to Moscow supports the murder of Ukrainains, says President’s Office


Faramarz 
09/24/22

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I remember "Soghute 79"! I read it back then!


Faramarz 
09/24/22

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I do no remember the oil workers but definitely Bazar played a big role as well.

The question of succession is the most painful since after 40+ years there is no good successor. I am at a loss as to why with so many who have been yakking away on LA TVs for 40+ years no one qualified has emerged. Nearly all of them are loons!

IMO, in this situation, people have to think about a new system rather than a new leader. One that can generate leaders with certain characteristics. 


Keefer 
09/24/22

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One book to read, of the era before the revolution, was The Crash of '79. 

The Crash of '79 is a book so real that its plot reads like today's headlines. The central figure is that world traveler, playboy, despot, and winter-sports enthusiast His Imperial Majesty the Shah of Iran, whose grandiose and megalomaniacal dreams, nurtured in secret and financed by oil money, engulf the lives of Erdman's characters, each of whom, unknowingly, is contributing to the event that will bring about the Crash of '79 and the demise of the industrial West.

Bill Hitchcock, the hero, is a successful banker, divorced skirt-chaser, confirmed cynic and financial genius. It is Hitchcock whom the Saudi Arabians pick to manage their vast hoard of accumulated oil profits and to fire a warning shot across the bows of the Western financial community. And no sooner has Hitchcock sat down at his desk in Riyadh than he learns just how precariously balanced the Western world's financial system really is.

Before long Hitchcock is wheeling and dealing at the highest levels of government, while pursuing Ursula Hartmann, beautiful Swiss daughter of one of the world's most distinguished nuclear scientists. Through her he becomes aware that the Saudi's, for all their oil and money, have a problem of their own - the Shah or Iran's ambition to control the entire Middle East and its precious oil...
 


Keefer 
09/24/22

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I believe 200 Iranian students who were arrested on this day were deported to Iran. Police came in with helicopters and  on horses, batons and tear gas. Chaos was ensued, and a lot of students were injured and the cabs in DC were taken over by the students, to take the injured to hospitals. The rest is history.


keefer 
09/24/22

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One of the most important factor, at the time of revolution, was oil workers stopped working, depriving the shah of revenues to pay the government workers and military. The next factor was air force personnel took the side of people!

Shah could have listened to Zbigniew Brzezinski, of Carter admin,  in breaking through the street fight at any cost. He either refused to do so on his own, or was advised to leave the country, by other American backers of the regime. A review of the news of the era testifies to that effect.


Zinsky  
09/24/22

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I talked with family back home and just like most of us here, they are angry and sad about the whole system & killing/arresting the young person in the streets but the same question comes up over and over.
What IF they actually leave? Who will replace them? They want/need someone or a group of them to be much better than this. Replacing these guys with another bunch of moftkhor is not an option or at least not worth dying for.


Zinsky  
09/24/22

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Another difference might have been the bazaar taking side with revolution and closed fully for few months. That was a huge deal back then. It basically stopped the economy.


Realist 
09/24/22

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نوچه لباس شخصی علی کریمی با کیف کج از ورزشگاه اخراج شد
درود بر نیروی انتظامی اتریش


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HAMVATAN™ 
09/24/22

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This is not to say that there won't be hiccups along the way. But it can't continue like this.


HAMVATAN™ 
09/24/22

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Faramarz, you are right on the "exclusive" nature of our thinking in general. However, the young generation are aware of this and are more proactive in combating the "only may way" mentality. You see it in their fight today. Girls with hejab are marching with others. In general this generation is more like what we see in Gen Z here. More peaceful, environmentally and culturally conscious and respectful to others opinion. I don't look at the IFP message boards and older folks as a representation of their wants and behavior. They are smarter than us.[smile]

You are right it was more than Tehran there but still not as wide spread. Today it is not just Universities. It is small towns and every corner of Iran.

The only Achilles Heal at this point is a viable opposition leader.


backechap 
09/24/22

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[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-Z72d96qdA&ab_channel=FoxDeportes[/video]


BACONVATAN 
09/24/22

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حیدر حیدر
حیدر حیدر

درود  بر  رضا شاه دوم

جاوید شاه
جاوید ایران

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_TptiOKDac&ab_channel=IranInternational%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B1%D9%86%D8%B4%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%84[/video]


HAMVATAN™ 
09/24/22

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Faramarz, if you ask me the improvement was 100% CQ.

All the components were there but not functioning due to:

-Not having a coach that is respected and demands discipline
-Playing as a team by trusting teammates
-Having a plan for each opponent
-Defining and dictating every players role with effectivity based on their talent and who they are playing against

I remember that people were complaining why Rezaian was not going forward in WC against Spain and Portugal as he was in Asia qualifiers. He would have been toast with these teams speedy wingers. He followed what CQ had prescribed. 

Did you see the pressing against Uruguay in their 1/3? It took them out of their element and slowed their build up hence leaving them frustrated. That is the best tactic against SA teams. Frustrate them and they will start deviating from their game plan (more individuality sets in). 

I cannot wait for US-IRAN game!


Faramarz 
09/24/22

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Hamvatan jAn, the one important parallel that I see is that we still continue with the notion of "if you do not agree with me, you must be my enemy." As long as we think this way and do not allow diversity of the opinion, we will not mount to anything. Even if this regime goes and another comes, we will be dealing with the same BS all over again.


Faramarz 
09/24/22

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Good comparison Hamvatan. I would add that the protests back then was much broader than Tehran. I remember lots of demonstrations in Tabriz as well. Also the university students played a big role back then driven by the mojaheds and the various flavors of the commies.


Faramarz 
09/24/22

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Senegal beat Bolivia 2-0 today. Both goals cane in the first half. They seem to be a strong team.


HAMVATAN™ 
09/24/22

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Friends this is my take on the situation compared to 1357:
- Today, it is more deeply entrenched in the society (% of participants and people wanting change is higher)
- In 57, the economy and peoples standard of living was much higher and the economy was growing. Now many people cannot put food on the table.
- In 57, the main issue was political freedom and for the masses it was religion (anti-westernization movement). Today, it is personal and political freedom and anti-religion (the exact opposite: majority don't want religious government)
- Government corruption and lying: 57: limited to few in royal court; today: it is expanded to a larger group who have no impunity
- Communication: 57: no social media, it was easy for regime to put an effective false narrative out there. Today: mass media and social platforms have made everyone aware of the lies and deceit.
- In 57, it was basically Tehran and today it is Iran that has risen.
- In 57, US neutralized the army and shah knew the end was near so he left. Today, the mullah's may know the end is near and they have no morals nor friends to run to once out of power but will kill and take everyone down with them.
- The spark in 57 was due to some serial event in east of Tehran: Meydoone Jaleh massacre by Royal Guard. -> Airforce Homafar's in Dushan Tapeh went into jubilation (when Khomeini was shown on TV) with commander ordering arrests (I heard executions but I am not sure), That sent Airforce and Army into a state of disfunction due to internal mutiny. -> Shortly after the news of executions in Doshan Tapeh got on the street. people stormed Taslihat on Niroo Havaei blvd and the cadets and soldiers let people in and take all of the arms. All of these locations are walking distance from each other. It put the people iin advantage.
- In 57, the opposition found a leader with long track record of being actively against the regime who had religous following. Today, we have no such person. Reza Pahlavi is not it. You cannot claim being a voice of opposition by leaving on wealth stolen and sending sound bytes once in a while and not having a formal position, job or responsibility for your whole life. The monarch system is dead in 21st century. My hope is that a credible opposition leader would emerge from inside.
- The vastness of the present uprising if it continues will be a big challenge for the regime. They will have deserters who were there just for the paycheck and don't want to put the lives on the line since they are there for the privileges and not the ideology (believe me I know few of them back home who have been boycotted by the family). Cracks will appear from within and they won't be able to keep moving them around from city to city to put down activities. The fatigue will set in and the GREAT ESCAPE will begin at the top and trickle down, At least that is what I predict and hope for.

I hope it is over soon without too much bloodshed and our people get the freedom and future they deserve and they can only shape. The population today is mostly young and very wise and I am certain they will avoid the mistakes of the past.

JAVID IRAN


Faramarz 
09/24/22

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Very true Zinsky, very true about trusting the american. But some of this also stems from us having the wrong expectations. I used to hear some people putting all their hopes in that the Americans will come and rescue us, the people. This is an insane expectation. Why would they do that? Out of the goodness of the heart? That is so naive. But we are not the only ones who make this mistake and as you have seen others have suffered from this mistake. The most recent was Zelensky who thought by promising to join NATO america will come to its defense and get into a war with Russia. And he continues to make the same mistakes. In his latest speech, he was asking for Russia to be kicked out of the United Nations for the crime of attacking another soveriegn nation. He is crazy if he thinks the US will follow that up. These are the privileges that america enjoys far more than Russia. 

Having such expectations will lead to disappointments. That is all. America is not even looking after its own nation's interests and is only focused on the interests of a few. The American people and other nations have to understand that before developing their expectations and strategies.


Faramarz 
09/24/22

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Merci Zinsky jAn for catching that. His mistake was to listen to the Americans, the very people he was trying to cut their hands from Iran's oil.
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