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Reza 
09/13/23

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I have an example too. One of my in laws, an english woman in her 70's drove her rental car from our house to the airport about 45 miles away at 8pm for a red eye flight. At 11pm, we got a call that she is in jail! [biggrin] We bailed her out at 1am for what later seemed to be a simple traffic violation. When we inquired why did she end up in jail, we did not get a good response. We went as far as hiring a lawyer but in the end, it turns out that this was at the discretion of the police. What actually had happened was that she had gone through a yellow light and she was stopped. In her stress of making the flight she had tried to argue that she had not violated any laws. The officer must not have liked the disobedience and decided to handcuff a 70+ year old women and jail her at 11pm just to teach her a lesson! 


Faramarz 
09/13/23

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I was once driving the stretch between Indianapolis and Atlanta with my wife and parents in the back seat. I was either in Kentucky or Tennessee when I was stopped by the police for switching lanes without a turn signal (or may have been speeding-don't remember). They came to my car and asked for my drivers license. My wallet was in the door pocket under some candy wrap. I grabbed my wallet and when I lifted my head, I faced two drawn guns, ready to shoot. :)

My cousin was fired as a police officer in Tabriz because he hit someone with his bare hands. :) 

Very different levels of authority. In the former case people's lives are trusted to some thugs. I do understand the necessity because people are armed here. But there is the everlasting question of WHY.


Zinsky  
09/13/23

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What amazes me is the power given to ordinary traffic police in this country. I understand most is due to the fact that so many people own guns and a simple traffic violation could end up being a shootout.
In just about any other country the traffic police are not responsible for serious crimes. They stop you, give you a ticket and you go your merry way. Here a speeding violation is looked at as a possible criminal activity.
I remember the first time I was stopped for turning left on a yellow/red light. It was my first year in America. The officers acted as if I might have killed few people in the process. It scared the shit out of me when 2 officers approached my car with their hands on their guns.


Faramarz 
09/13/23

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On policing, don't get me started. I will try to be brief.

In this country people blame a lot of things on racism, inequity, etc. I do not believe this to be true in most cases. The issue is the capitalist/financial nature of how things are run. 

Policing and military is a good example. In all other countries, there is a military draft. You take a cross section of the population and you draft them all into the military. But here, there is no draft. Instead the model is soldier to hire. Policing has a similar model. But unfortunately, because the money is not a whole lot, it only "drafts" people from the lower class and with minimal education, but also often thugs. So, imagine a law enforcement that is primarily from the lower classes of the society and often are themselves thugs. You can then guess the outcome, regardless of race, black or white. This is also why there are so many war crimes that have to be covered up by the US military. Then they publish the picture of a soldier holding a baby in Iraq to make it all better.  What I describe here is obviously not everyone, but non-negligible proportion.


Faramarz 
09/13/23

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Zinsky jAn, I got up for some early morning work, but you are now instead putting me to task at IFP. [rofl]

I am sorry Zinsky jAn about the lecture. Old lecture habit! But I do find human brain and decision making fascinating. It is also what I was formally trained on. So, could not help. Hidden Brain is great. I am also looking for a short book that they made us read in school on intelligence. It was a work of fiction about an electromechnical machine that had a light sensor that would generate energy for its mechnical motor to run. Would study whether it was intelligence and its decision making process. If I find it, I will post it here. Was a fascinating read. It really helps to put everything we do into a perspective.


Zinsky  
09/13/23

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Faramarz,
I said I’ve become interested in human mind, you gave me a phd level information! I’m still in elementary level 🥴
Human brain and its evolution is fascinating. It’s not simply a machine. It does so much more.
I do listen to NPR and the hidden brain show in my car. I usually don’t get to listen to the whole episode. I’ll give the podcast a try.
Something that was on radio today was about the police officers in Memphis who beat the black guy and later left him to die. It makes it different since all officers are black as well. When people asked for police reform, it was always came out as if they are complaining about white people. Race plays a big role but policing in America needs to change.
For me it doesn’t matter if the police officers are black or white when they stop me. They just seem too scary no matter the color of their skin.


Faramarz 
09/12/23

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Zinsky, this is a pretty interesting show: The Hidden Brain.

I highly recommend it. It broadcasts here on Sundays.

https://www.npr.org/series/423302056/hidden-brain


Faramarz 
09/12/23

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lol, good point about lowering expectations though. My long winded yak simply summarizes into lower your expectations, changing minds is nearly impossible with people who have put you in the dog house.


Faramarz 
09/12/23

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lol on the sweet subject of CQ. I do not disagree with your basic objection that he plays defensively. I am simply saying that we are not good enough to win titles with an "offensive" game. I may stand corrected now that we have GN. We'll see.


Faramarz 
09/12/23

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Now, imagine such tribal minds getting into the exercise of discussing issues between two people who have been put into two opposing tribes. Good luck making that work.

Didid cheghadr zer zadam?


Faramarz 
09/12/23

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So, the human mind is a super efficient classifier that does everything by classification. This is its preferred mode of operation. You can make it work differently, but requires a lot of training.

Now what are the consequences of this for human behavior? There are some pretty significant consequences. Neuroscience tells us that bias, preferential treatment, animosity, anger, all good and bad human behavior comes from this basic neurological way of processing signals. We are by all definitions tribal animals. We classify, put people, concepts, even inanimate object into classes that we like or do not like. Then treat them accordingly.


Faramarz 
09/12/23

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When we want to program a computer to recognize the image of a person, we create a library of images. Then try to take an image of the person we are trying to identify at a very high resolution and then ask the computer to match the new image to the library of images it has.

Turns out, brain does things very differently. It actually does not like high resolution images. If you give it such an image, the first neurons actually act as a filter getting rid of most of the resolution, significantly reducing the amount of the data that needs to be processed. The act of recognition happens only on a fuzzy image. The proof of this is that you can recognize a friend from far away long before you can see the details of her face. 


Faramarz 
09/12/23

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After decades of research we have learned that prediction is far more complex a task than classification. We usually do not do so well in prediction but do much better in classification. Because of these challenges, neuroscientists have looked into how brain works.

Turns out brain also does most tasks as classification problems. Take for instance recognition of someone you know. Humans take about 100ms to recognize their mother. Each neuron's firing rate is about a millisecond, pretty slow as compared to today's computer clock! So, a long standing question in neuroscience has been how does the brain does the recognition task with such speed? Our fastest computers cannot beat the 100ms race! So, the signal from eyes in only processed by about 100 neurons (or layers of neurons) sequentially before the brain recognizes that person. Brain has about 10^23 neurons. How is this speed achieved with such slow processing elements?


Faramarz 
09/12/23

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I am going to spam a bit here. Sorry guys, I am just catching up. I'll start with the very interesting subject of the human mind that Zinsky brought up. A few things from AI to Neuroscience corner and back to human behavior.

So, in AI, ML models are usually trained for two types of tasks, generally speaking: Classification or prediction. The distinction is easier with an example. If you try to train an ML model to distinguish, say between good and bad, this is called classification because you define classes (good and bad) and you try to put the entire world into those two buckets. Now prediction is when you ask the model the same question, but ask it to provide a measure, a degree if you will, of the goodness or badness. Say have 0 be bad and 10 be good and have the model se everyone in the world on that scale of 0 to 10. This is prediction. 


Faramarz 
09/12/23

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It has been a busy day for me. But the last game I saw from Mexico was very poor. Uzbaks are may be the 8th team in Asia. How was Mexico in this game?


Zinsky  
09/12/23

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Uzbekistan is beating Mexico 2-1
America is beating Oman 1-0


lol 
09/12/23

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I don't like to comment on the arguments on the board but I give you my understanding of this page.
I don't come here to carry out a conversation or debate a particular subject with anyone. Case in point is my criticism of CQ over the years and Faramarz support of him. I state my point he does his and that's it I don't try to debate him or change his mind. My purpose is to state my perspective and let the readers hear it.
Basically I come here expecting to inform and get informed mainly about Iranian sports and then other Iranian subjects. I don't expect anything more or anything less.
Some of the posters here want to carry a conversation and argue about a subject, I think that's better done in person not behind a keyboard. This is not a chat room like 'clubhouse' or similar platforms.
In conclusion, learn to lower your expectation from people you interact with everyday and you will live a happier life!

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXzq1av-594&ab_channel=ShummerChannel[/video]



lol 
09/12/23

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Pretty good showing by TM today playing positive football. GN started with 7 changes from the last match and then subbed in more players. I think he has pretty much played all the people he invited to this camp in these 2 games.

Contrasting showing by the U23 team. They played a very shelakhteh football, some of them literally, like captain Yasin Salmani whose shorts was always hanging high or low! The players started arguing with the ref from the get go. The team has some talent but not the right leadership and attitude. They need a kick in the butt to gain the right attitude!

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqbX2BJQGzg&ab_channel=Mundial[/video]


Zinsky  
09/12/23

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Another subject that creates intense arguments. Looking at the list and try to find a positive example of the interference. Hard to find one.
https://www.history.com/news/us-overthrow-foreign-governments


Zinsky 
09/12/23

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I don’t mean this to be about this site or that site. I’ve been noticing it everywhere these days. Politic is of course the biggest problem.
When mind is set on a subject, it’s almost impossible to move it. When that happens, everything needs to fit that narrative.
Covid was the best example of that. A virus became a political weapon.
When it wasn’t in America, many were screaming and blaming other countries for not doing enough to stop it. When it hit America, 1st was denial. When that didn’t work, it became a way to attack others. Before anyone could truly understand the virus, politicians became experts. Ordinary people went to their corners and…
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