Zinsky Sorry but to get the discussion started (since I still have a haircut and a trip to the gym to go before I can settle down), I should say that may be we are saying the same thing or differ. To explore this, let me ask you which of the two choices do you prefer for yourself (clearly different people would chose differently):

1. You are not so wealthy, do not have any luxuries in your life, barely can afford a basic car, but have limited pension that allows you to continue as you are but not better, and you can retire at the age of 50, in a community that is woven together fairly tightly.

2. You make good amount of money. Are in the upper middle class of a rich society, have many luxuries in your life including a couple of brand new cars, and friends who are just like you and with whom you do the weekend mehmoonies, you take expensive two week vacations every year, but cannot really retire if you want to maintain all of that and have to go after least until you are 70 (some times longer) before you retire in a motorized society where you have to drive to buy a piece of bread for your breakfast.

Which would you prefer? I think the choice is clear for the dehati in Tehran. But for you and I who are thinking about this more carefully, it is complicated. If you really stop and think about all the aspects, the choice quickly becomes complicated. There is the life style while you are working, there is the life style after you stop working, and there is the 20 years of extra labor that you have to extend. These are the minimum considerations. If you think a bit more, things become even more complicated. You will end up with questions like how many $$$ is it worth for me to see my family, friend (whoever) 4 hours less each day for 20 years. How many $$$ is it worth for me to accept that when I see them after work for an hour or two, I will be tired and really would not engage them in the way I would like because I am just tired from work.

The terms of the treaty are as follow^[12][13]

• Article 4: Persia ceded the Erivan Khanate (most of present-day central Armenia), the Nakhchivan Khanate (most of the present-day Nakhchivan Autonomous Republic of Azerbaijan), the Talysh Khanate (southeastern Azerbaijan), and the Ordubad and Mughan regions (now also part of Azerbaijan) and also reiterated the cessions made to Russia in the Treaty of Gulistan
• Article 6: Persia promised to pay Russia 10 korur in gold or 20 million silver rubles (in 1828 currency).
• Article 7: Russia promised to support Abbas Mirza as the heir to the throne of Persia on the death of Shah Fath Ali (the clause became moot when Abbas Mirza predeceased Shah Fath Ali).
• Article 8: Persian ships lost full rights to navigate all of the Caspian Sea and its coasts, which were given to Russia.
• Persia recognised capitulation rights for Russian subjects in Persia.
• Article 10: Russia gained the right to send consular envoys anywhere in Persia.
• Article 10: both parties accept commercial treaties with detailed conditions.
• Article 13: prisoners-of-war were exchanged.
• Persia officially apologised for breaking its promises made in the Treaty of Gulistan.
• Article 15: Shah Fath Ali Shah promised not to charge or persecute any inhabitant or official in the region of Iranian Azerbaijan for any deed carried out during the war or during the temporary control of the region by Russian troops. In addition, all inhabitants of the aforementioned district were given the right to move from Persian districts to Russian districts within one year.

Following this treaty, as well as the Treaty of Gulistan, Russia had finished conquering all the Caucasus territories from Qajar Iran what is now Dagestan, eastern Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Armenia, all of which had formed part of its very concept for centuries.^[5] The areas north of the Aras River, such as the territory of the contemporary nations of Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia and the North Caucasian Republic of Dagestan, were Iranian until they were occupied by Russia during the 19th century.^{[6][7][8][9][10][11]}

Following the two treaties, the formerly Iranian territories came under the Russian, and later the Soviet control for approximately 180 years, and Dagestan remains a constituent republic within the Russian Federation to this day. Comprising most of the territory ceded in Gulistan and Turkmenchay treaties, three separate nations would gain independence following the dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991: Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia.


I have heard though from many that these agreements had an end date by which these territories were supposed to go back to Iran. Does anyone know anything about this end date? Wikipedia does not say.