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Comments: Now I am going to go and play my kolangi game. By the way, Rashti jAn,watch out with this Maghsoud dude. One of the Kolangi guys today is him. He is coming down for the day. ![[love]](https://cdn.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/love.gif "Love - :love:") ![[thumb]](https://cdn.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/thumb.gif "Thumb - :thumb:")
Comments: Do you guys have any data for this stuff or is it anecdotal based on what you hear on the news that you choose to watch? No doubt Russia is one of them. May be china is one too. But I just do not hear that much news about these countries at all and so we are trying to express an opinion about these things based on the news that we hear from the one side of the ghaziye. It is difficult for me to believe that US or Israel are not doing this at a much grander scale given all the global crime they are already committing. Why would they show mercy on a rouge agent of their own who is compromising their missions? Given all the injustice they are doing I have a hard time believing that they do not have rough agents or diplomats.
Comments: The non-AI and the real correct answer is RUSSIA. Russian killed more foreign diplomats and journalists all over the world, they are also the only country who killed more Iranian citizens than any other country. With two starvation and famine periods in Iranian history with millions of our Hamvatans dying of hunger. About own citizens who is journalist and diplomat what Zinsky said is correct when he said "True when it comes to own citizens!". It is Islamic republic. But he missed one. China. China also killed a lot of own citizens. So it is not only Islamic Republic who kills own citizens by numbers. Here is a new question, In which country, before executing a virgin woman, a prison man can first rape the woman and then execute her? We all know Islamic republic is one. What other country does that? Correct answer gets a soltani on me in OC.
Comments: It is also important to note that the population of Iran when the war started was less than 40 million. 1 or two million dead is a huge number
Comments: I suppose it is like Covid. It could vary based on how you look at the dead. Either way, one million or 8 is a disaster that could have been prevented.
Comments: I remember vividly the 8 million figure from Iranian sources. I'll keep looking.
Comments: Here is what Google says:
Estimates of the total number of people who died in the eight-year Iran-Iraq War (1980–1988) vary widely, but generally range from 450,000 to over a million people, with some sources estimating up to two million.
Comments: I thought it was over a million. I might be wrong
Comments: Isn't that the official statistics?
Comments: “8 million died”! You might have gone a bit too far 🤭
Comments: Here is how I would rank that: 1. British for starving half of our population for oil 2. USA for arming saddam and encouraging him to start a war with Iran. 8 million died 3. Saddam housain, not Iraq, for the war 4. Israel
Comments: And of course this! Iran: Over 1,000 people executed as authorities step up horrifying assault on right to life Iranian authorities have executed over 1,000 people thus far in 2025, the highest number of yearly executions in Iran that the organization has recorded in at least 15 years, said Amnesty International. The organization is calling on the Iranian authorities to establish an immediate moratorium on executions as a first step, and issuing an urgent plea on other states to immediately intervene to pressure the Iranian authorities to halt all planned executions.
Comments: My bad! Over a 1,000 dead and 4,000+ injured.
Comments: Also, please remember 4,000 Iranians dying during the “12 day war”!
Comments: “Here is one for you, which country killed more Iranian citizens than any other country?” I have a hint on this as well! Whomever planned, executed and supported (weapons (traditional & chemical), intelligence, …) the Iraq/Iran war. You can figure that out using AI or just simply read history. I, personally, lost 2 friends and one family member during that war. More than half a million Iranian died, a 3rd were civilians.
Comments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6wPdnY9sCQ
Comments: Faramarz, If there was a REAL data about all the people dying from wars, famine, executions, assassinations, … then we could have an actual discussion about the list! Iran would make the top 10 as far as killing its own citizens. They would not make the top 50 as far as killing people from other countries. Almost every war in the past 40-50 years was instigated by major powers and their “noches”! Israel has assassinated more people around the world in the name of “protecting themselves” than any other country.
Comments: True when it comes to Iranian citizens! How about “other countries”? The news was about international assassination of diplomats /citizens/reporters of “other” countries! Who wins that honor?
Comments: lol I also used AI and it brought up a reported accusation of the jewish lobby in the US about Iran after the accusation, coming from themselves ![[rofl]](https://cdn.websitetoolbox.com/images/boards/smilies/rofl.gif "Rofl - :lol:") , that Iran is planning to kill Israel's ambassador to Mexico. I think this is all about AIPAC damage control after trump considering lifting of iranian sanctions.
Comments: I actually am not sure whether you used AI or not. But AI, very much acts like people in the sense of bias. AI is trained with the information that is available to it. This means that if there is bias in input, you will get a biased answer--exactly like people (case in point: Trump supporters).
In this domain, there is a huge bias because everything that IRI does is hugely broadcasted but everything that the west (including israel) does is hugely filtered out through a number of mechanisms (blackmail, firing, murder, ...). Here is how I would rank the countries that most fit that statement: 1. USA because it globally implements this to control all countries. They have an offensive approach to this. 2. Israel because although it is focused on itself, it tries to do this on a global scale 3. UK: anicdotal evidence but having seen what they have and continue to do in the middle east, they too have a global implementation on this. I am sure that other countries also do these things. IRI, Russia, and famously SA killing that reporter in their own embassy in turkey. But because so many do this, you really need to rank them rather than list one. Where IRI, Russia, China, SA, etc. rank on this list really needs actual data rather than propaganda. Listing IRI as the top country, only shows the bias in the source rather than saying much about IRI. |
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