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Faramarz 
06/17/25

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So, I agree. He is perfect for his role.


mashghasem 
06/17/25

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Trump says the US knows where Iran's Khamenei is hiding and urges Iran's unconditional surrender



Faramarz 
06/17/25

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Reza, keep in mind that RP is an asset of foreign agencies. He does what he is told. Bibi put up a message about regime change and ordered him to do the same. Whether what he says matters, the plan is realistic, or whether people will actually listen to him are not for him to decide. He will do what he is told.


Faramarz 
06/17/25

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There is an index called the Pentagon Pizza Index. It accurately predicts when Pentagon is going to do something by keeping track of how many pizzas Pentagon staff order working late.[biggrin] The index was very high yesterday and the day before.

https://x.com/PenPizzaReport


Reza 
06/17/25

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RP's totally delusional. Actually he’s perfect for this role


Reza 
06/17/25

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Port of Haifa is without natural gas and electricity according to witnesses


Reza 
06/17/25

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Yes as far as we can tell, Mosad and Aman HQ have been hit today. Shin bat has banned sending videos out of Tel Aviv and Haifa in fear of giving credence to Irans claims. But by all accounts, IRI fired a barrage of new missiles that land perpendicular onto the target as they approach (عمود پرواز)  and these newer, heavier and larger ballistic missiles are easily getting thru. This is why I wouldn’t be surprised if US gets involved starting tonight with bombing Natanz and Ferdow.


Zinsky  
06/17/25

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Without US support and massive bombs, Israel is going to damage anything they can but not get what they want.
Question is whether Trump bends over just like any other president in recent history or refuses to get involved.
If Iran’s nuclear facilities are bomb with US bombs, bloodshed will spread across Middle East.
Iranian citizens are the victims and they will take all the pain.


Observes 
06/17/25

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Meanwhile Iran's cheif of staff is saying we have been using kids glove so far but are about to take the gloves off and orders civilians to leave Haifa and Tel Aviv.

We got 2 Baghdad Bobs this time in both Tehran and Washington!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa-QUDHgavs&ab_channel=AfghanistanInternational



Observes 
06/17/25

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Now Trump is saying we know where the Supreme Leader is hiding but we won't get him yet. And he is also calling for Iran's unconditional surrender! 

He did not say what happens if they don't!


Observes 
06/17/25

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I doubt IRI will voluntarily give up uranium enrichment which was the excuse for the preemptive strike. But even if they agree to this demand they will still be told to give up your missile/military programs and so on. IRI will not go down this path because that is suicidal for them.

So at this point the only way Israel and the US achieve their goals is to do a regime change. They hoped for people to rise up and do the job but that has not happened. They can continue their bombing campaign, assasinate more political and military leaders and hope for a collapse of the system. But Israel will be decimated in a prolonged conflict and the risk of Iran spreading the fighting to the entire Persian Gulf region will grow with time.

IRI only needs to survive to claim victory.



Zinsky 
06/17/25

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Israel "undermined Donald Trump's negotiating position" with Iran and placed the U.S. president in an impossible predicament — both for his diplomatic goals and for his ego, an expert claimed.

Israel's primary goal in attacking Iran was to utterly dismantle its nuclear program and prevent it, once and for all, from producing a nuclear weapon. But Israel has fallen short of that goal — and it won't be able to achieve it without either sparking negotiations with Iran or involving the U.S.

On the one hand, Iran is already blaming the U.S. for Israel's attack — the U.S. helped Israel's Iron Dome defense system intercept Iranian missiles flying into Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, and it also provided many of the weapons Israel used to strike Iranian targets. Actual U.S. offensive involvement in the conflict is irrelevant to Iran. It comes after Trump was slammed for an alarming White House decision.

Trump cautioned Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu against the strikes, believing — and accurately so — that they would escalate the conflicts already raging in the Middle East.

He also believed that they would harm his negotiating position with Iran as the countries work toward a new nuclear proliferation agreement.

"With its unprovoked war, Israel has undermined Trump’s negotiating position," Trita Parsi, co-founder and executive vice president of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft, told the Mirror US.

"Support for acquiring a nuclear weapon has surged among Iran’s elite and broader society in response to the Israeli bombings. This has raised the political cost for Tehran to agree to limit enrichment to civilian levels, making a deal more difficult."

Trump did, however, provide his blessing for Israel to go to war with Iran — something Parsi said was unexpected. And it may have had ramifications on America's negotiations with Iran.

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"America’s backing of Israel’s attack — coupled with Trump’s self-congratulatory rhetoric — has led Tehran to believe he deliberately lulled Iran into a false sense of security to boost Israel’s chances," Parsi said. "As a result, what little trust remained in Trump as a negotiating partner has further eroded. And the less trust there is, the narrower the path to a deal."

"Had Trump stuck to his original red line — no weaponization — he might now be on the verge of a historic nuclear agreement with Iran," he added.

On the other hand, "Trump likes winners" and hates losers. And, by asking the U.S. to intervene, "Israel is signaling that it's losing," Parsi wrote.

"It has failed to eliminate Iran's regime or cripple its nuclear program and is now absorbing unexpected blows in return," he said. "Despite inflicting significant damage on the Natanz nuclear site, Israel has failed to penetrate the far more critical and heavily fortified Fordow facility. As a result, the actual impact on Iran’s nuclear program appears limited."

To strike the Fordow facility, Israel will need the help of the U.S., which boasts specialty drones and aircraft that would allow it to strike inside the facility — not just crippling it but utterly dismantling it.

Israel's failures, however, have made it convincing the U.S. to join the conflict and strike at the heart of Iran's nuclear facilities even more difficult, Parsi said — even with Israeli allies in Washington lobbying Trump to enter the war and begin offensive strikes.

So, Netanyahu has turned toward other means of eliciting a U.S. response to the conflict. It began by seeking "a green light for Israel to act," he said.

But, he added, "Seeking America’s blessing to go to war is a far lighter ask than requesting America’s direct military involvement." He noted that "Trump, unexpectedly, agreed to the former" but added that "it would be exceptionally unwise for him to agree to the latter."

Trump was quick to take credit for the success of the strikes after the initial wave. "Impressed by Israel's early success, Trump moved quickly to claim credit for the operation despite Secretary of State Marco Rubio having declared just hours earlier that the strikes were a 'unilateral action' by Israel and that the U.S. was not involved," Parsi said.

Just 18 hours later, however, Iran had completely restructured its chain of command — the strikes killed at least three of its top generals — and activated its air defenses. But "most critically," Parsi said, the country launched four missile barrages at Israeli targets in Tel Aviv, penetrating the country's Iron Dome defense system and landing a direct hit on the country's Ministry of Defense.

"That Tehran could mount such a response just hours after losing several top military commanders was the first clear sign that Israel’s initial success would be short-lived," Parsi analyzed. And that, he said, didn't impress Trump.

"Why would Trump risk American lives, endanger his presidency and join a war he didn't start — just to rescue Israel from a failed and unprovoked conflict? Trump prefers to take credit for victories, not inherit blame for someone else’s potential fiasco," he said.

"Israel’s war of choice with Iran is proving far less decisive than President Donald Trump initially believed when he praised Israel’s performance as 'excellent,'" he added. "What now appears to be an escalating, inconclusive conflict with no clear end in sight will soon force Trump into a challenging decision: end the war — or enter it."

"It is becoming increasingly clear to Washington that Israel’s war of choice is far from a success, and a decisive outcome may not materialize at all."

Nevertheless, Parsi said a deal "remains possible." But achieving one will come down to how quickly Trump can stop Israel. "The sooner Trump halts Israel's war, the better his chances," Parsi wrote.

Iran's foreign minister, Abbas Araqchi, said on Monday that the reopening of discussions between Iran and the U.S. simply requires a phone call from Trump to Netanyahu.

"If President Trump truly believes in diplomacy and wants to stop this war, the next steps are crucial," Aragchi wrote in a public Telegram channel. "Israel must stop its aggression. Without a complete cessation of military aggression against us, our responses will continue."

"It only takes one phone call from Washington to silence someone like Netanyahu," he continued. "This could pave the way for a return to diplomacy."

Parsi emphasized the importance of Aragchi's ultimatum. "One thing is certain: if Trump and Iran return to the negotiating table, he must quickly abandon the self-defeating zero-enrichment demand championed by Israel and [John] Bolton — the very stance that gave birth to this needless and messy war," he concluded.


Observes 
06/17/25

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Iran has hit Mossad and Aman HQ today. Clearly Israel can not stop Iranian missiles at this point even with the help from US and other NATO countries. 
Ordinary people are trapped in Israel as the airport is still closed. Government has banned anyone from leaving only tourists are allowed to leave. Reportedly people are paying thousands of dollars to leave by sea, if they can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIwhXVqNuT4&ab_channel=OneindiaNews





Zinsky  
06/17/25

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Russia and China could provide their best air defenses to prevent this. They could but will they? I don’t think so.


Faramarz 
06/17/25

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On the territorial sovereignty, I worry the most. I think, if somehow RP is pushed into power, he will be a wimp which will lead to officially giving territory away. He is the worst person to lead the country.


Zinsky  
06/17/25

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Only America can make this happen again. Nuclear disaster again. 1st Japan, now Iran.
Does anyone know the effect of this attack on nuclear site? Has it ever been done before? I assume 60% enriched nuclear material is not just going to disappear!!!


Zinsky  
06/17/25

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It’s funny and sad how just about every country is condemning Israel verbally but no real action to prevent the worse to happen.
At some point, some of these countries need to say what they mean and mean what they say!
We are looking at millions of people affected in coming days. Blowing up the nuclear facilities could have consequences beyond anyone’s understanding.


Faramarz 
06/17/25

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Hamvatan this is true in my family as well for two reasons:

"The RP fans in my family are now turning away from him concluding that he is their tool and an opportunist but they want IRI gone."

One is that they realize that he is a pawn (like his father was at the beginning) and just echoing the BS propaganda of Israel.

The other is that they realize the intention has never been to replace IRI but rather to keep it. Just make it more compliant. This is in direct conflict with what people want.


Zinsky 
06/17/25

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The Israeli ambassador to the US has cautioned there are still “surprises up our sleeves” in the fight against Iran — as President Trump issued his own ominous warning that Israel wouldn’t be slowing its attacks anytime soon.

“Expect a surprise later this week,” Yechiel Leiter told Merit TV on Monday.

“Let’s just say the world will understand how serious we are about stopping Iran’s capabilities — and not just in Gaza or southern Lebanon.”

The envoy didn’t elaborate on the plans but noted it would likely make the Israeli’s infamous move to detonate thousands of Hezbollah pagers in Lebanon late last year “look simple.”

“We’ve pulled off a number of surprises. When the dust settles, you’re going to see some surprises on Thursday night and Friday, that will make the beeper operation almost seem simple.”

Leiter added that Trump wasn’t putting pressure on the Jewish state to curb the fighting.

It came as Trump echoed the warning and urged “everyone to evacuate” Tehran late Monday as Israel appeared to expand its air assault.

“You’re going to find out over the next two days,” Trump said early Tuesday aboard Air Force One when asked if Israel would halt its onslaught.

“You’re going to find out. Nobody’s slowed up so far.”

Trump warned Iran against targeting US troops in the Middle East, saying: “We’ll come down so hard if they do anything to our people. We’ll come down so hard, Then the gloves are off… I think they know not to touch our troops.” 

Trump confirmed reports that he was considering sending Vice President JD Vance and his presidential envoy Steve Witkoff to meet with Iranian officials to discuss an end to fighting — after Witkoff previously led nuclear talks with Tehran.

“I may, it depends on what happens when I get back,” the president said.

Trump said he wanted “a real end, not a cease-fire, an end” and suggested that Iran could resolve the fighting by “giving up entirely.”

When asked if powerful US bunker-busting bombs might be used by the American military to finish off the Iranian nuclear program, Trump said: “I hope their program is going to be wiped out long before that.”


Reza 
06/17/25

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Guys, remember VERV? It is up 80% today [eek]

It is the company with a one shot cure for high cholesterol. Lilly is buying them.
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