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Comments: Good discussion. Here is how I feel about this:
- Does the success or failure of this team hurt the government or help it in any way? I think we all know the answer here. It is a clear no. In fact, I think the government will use the failure as an excuse to shut down football or limit it significantly. It is the only place lots of people get together and disobery in all sort of ways, women in stadiums, no hejAb, or anti government chants. - Is this a government team or people's team? Well the irony is that everyone (the government and the opposition) all want this team to mix politics with sports. If they do it aligning with the government then some will look at the team as anti people. If they they oppose the government in an open forum way, they will call it mardomi? The problem is that to me none of this defines a national team. A national team is the team of a nation. It is above politics and it always represents the nation, the people of a country, not the government. Even if they bring in a bunch of sepAhies and field them, the moment they take the field, to the world, that will become Team Iran. Trying to cast that team as the government's team will not do anything to the government and only to the image of the nation. No one right now says that Iranian players were booed by their own hamvatan and called bisharaf during the last world cup, except for a few Iranians. The world remembers that day as the day Iran lost to England pretty badly. 6-2. That is the end of the story. Are the players with the government or with the people? Well, they all have to go through two screens: 1) If they are against the government openly, they wont be on the team. 2) if they are not a big name, are they bribing someone like GN or someone in the government to be on the team. If not, they are gone. So, the expectation that the players will take the field and protest IRI is just crazy and not based in reality of how these players are selected. The bottom line for me is that I like sports to be above politics. The teams success and failure does not matter to the government but does impact a whole lot of people and the nation's pride. So, I will go and enjoy the games and cheer for my country's team regardless of which way the players think. They still represent my people not the government. Their success or failure only affects the people not the government.
Comments: HAMVATAN, Appreciate it. For me, football is one of the only things that I feel could be separated from politics, religion and all that. Of course, it’s not the case these days. FIFA and the rest are making it very hard to see the sport as sport only. I’m not as excited about football (Iran or otherwise) these days. It’s partly due to my age, I suppose, and all the other BS going on around the world. Still, I will watch and cheer TM for my homeland. Not sure if I would travel to west coast to watch them live and in person but would not miss them live on TV with couple of old friends from my childhood who all leave in east coast. I wish it was different but I’m old enough and hopefully vise enough to know what is the reality of our lives.
Comments: Zinsky, you are right that the whole team is not at fault and does not deserve the wholesale discredit and disgust by fans. But it makes it hard to root for it when they put an idiot sellout as coach just because he is the regime's guy and the team has no technical or tactical identity. With that said, I will most probably go to the games in LA with my family and root for Iran as a nation not for IRI. Faramarz, why don't you apply under multiple IDs (tied to other people going). There is no guarantee that you will get all matches. But if you are selected you will get all seats requested for that match. You can always resell extra ones.
Comments: I wish I could travel to see you all and go to the games.
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Comments: I need a total of 10 tickets guys. I have 4. lol dahaneto!! ![]() Zinsky an dHamvatan, if you have tickets you want to get rid of, I'll buy them from you.
Comments: I also did not have a wait time. It was pretty easy which leads me to believe that FIFA is going to get hacked and millions of people's information and credit cards from around the world will be stolen. :) This whole wait until Feb 5 is BS. Why not sell the ticket now, if you are collecting all the financial information?
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Comments: Rumors are that Iran will play Portugal in January in SoCal!!!
Comments: By the way, my wait time was about 3-4 minutes. My daughter tried and hers was almost no wait time. I assume many people jumped in early with the fear of missing out but as time passed less and less people applied
Comments: Out of curiosity, is it an all or nothing when it comes to the tickets? Could one apply for 4 tickets and only get 2? HAMVATAN Jan, I’m not sure if punishing the players and the team helps anyone. I know why fans are pissed off about so many things but other than a handful of players, the rest are not representative of the government, I think. They see football and WC as their ticket to move on to another country and make money. Most don’t really have a choice.
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Comments: I put 4 for the games in LA. I have a hard time getting excited about this team and their ALDANG coach. I might not go. Faramarz if that may be the case and I get the tickets, I will let you know. As Dadkan said in his recent interview: "This is not people's team" alluding to Khaye-Mali and subservient behavior (to Rahbar and IR) of coach and players. Case in point, Taremi criticized (government) in a tongue-in-cheek manner about stadiums and infrastructure after the last TM game criticism. Next day, they made him apologize telling him why didn't he complain when they gave him luxury car import! |
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